by Matthew Tavares on 19 Apr 21:47

sorry to pry, but what is that stunning font face used in the fluxiom logo

at first i thought it was metacelf bold, but the letters are alot more straight-egded

by Chris on 19 Apr 22:36

Herzlichen Glückwunsch an die Wollzelle, was ihr da gezaubert hat übertrifft all meine Erwartungen. So elegant wie ein Tiger und sehr pfiffig gelöst bis in die Details. Wenn ds mal nicht steil nach oben geht. Super Angebot. Dann macht Euch mal auf einen ordentlichen Ansturm verzweifelter Grafiker mit Umfeld gefasst die schon seit Jahre nach so einer tollen Lösung lechzen. Alles Gute weiterhin. Chris

by Carl-Johan Kihlbom on 19 Apr 22:48

Congratulations on the launch! However, there doesn’t seem to be a way to try the service without providing any credit card details. That’s a pity.

by George on 20 Apr 00:30

I would be MUCH more inclined to test out the 30-day trial if I didn’t have to give my credit card number before doing so.

Please reconsider the idea of requiring a credit card to test the product. Thanks!

by Hallvar on 20 Apr 01:26

Agree with george here. Its a total turn-off that you need to provide credit-card details just to try it, or even get a glimpse at it. Why not provide a guest account that anyone can use? I mean, it’s a collaboration product, so why not let the world collaborate. Anyways seems like a great product! A tip though: WebDAV front-end.. would atleast remove the “one-file-at-a-time” upload issue for a few power-users. Keep it up dudes!

by Frank on 20 Apr 05:28

I completely agree with both George and Hallvar about how it’s a major turnoff to try the product since it requires a credit card.

I extremely like hallvar idea that maybe a guest account, an account that anyone can use to demo, could be setup for people to see the product in use.

by Bret on 20 Apr 09:05

I agree with the comments above. Asking for a credit card when offer a FREE 30-day trial seems strange to me.

by Matt Tavares on 20 Apr 12:08

i agree with this motion, any kind of pay-for trial is a turnoff to most buyers who are skeptical about offering credit card information for a product they are merely trying.

so you should have some kind of miniscule 5 mb demo account, just so people can get a grasp

by Hendrik on 20 Apr 12:09

Also agree on free-no-credit-card demo. I’ve waited keenly for this launch…..

by steve on 20 Apr 12:59

Please don’t take offense, this is just my opinion.

Sorry, but having to sign up and agree on a monthly plan giving all personal data etc is just not acceptable. As you are obviously trying to ride the Web 2.0 train, the trial should be one click away, maximum. This way, I have to tell someone else to check it out for me, because I don’t have the time to fill out endless forms.

by Paul Watson on 20 Apr 13:00

Agreed on the credit-card story. I was eager to try out the free trial and then if I found it to my liking start paying. Please drop the CC requirement or offer a demo account that we can use.

by Derek Lakin on 20 Apr 13:04

I’m with everyone else on the CC requirement to try things out.

Given the proliferation of online storage services with GB-plus storage options for free it is difficult to find a compelling reason to try Fluxiom if I have to part with my CC details.

by erik on 20 Apr 13:04

Where’s the free try-out? Sorry, but you should not ask for a credit card number just to try-out a service.

It’s 2006 guys :-)

by Matt Carey on 20 Apr 13:09

Why don’t you do what Campfire does—free trial for 30 days then it asks for your credit card to carry on.

Much better than asking for the cc details first—which is topping me from trying it out (and then signing up if I like it)

by Paul D on 20 Apr 13:13

Any chance of a desktop file uploading tool? DropSend does this right; I just drag files to the icon in my dock.

by xen on 20 Apr 13:37

Congratulations! Your project is best web 2.0 app. Hope some day you open free demo service w/o cc.

by Nicolas on 20 Apr 13:58

I agree with the free demo. I was suscripted by long long time, awaiting today, but have to enter my credit card number to try? mm… i’m sad. tks any way

by Vlad on 20 Apr 14:35

I’m another person here that believes Fluxiom needs to drop the credit card requirement and/or create a demo account for everyone to use.

No digg from me

by Jeff Adams on 20 Apr 14:35

Free demo please.

How about free for 30 days after which it asks us to signup or automatically cancels the account.

by denis on 20 Apr 14:41

a credit card for the free 30 days ? it’s too bad.

by James Andrews on 20 Apr 14:43

I totally agree with the cc point, though maybe you’re trying to make people think twice about signing up!

The nature of the Fluxiom service makes it resource hungry (storage, bandwidth and processing) and Fluxiom needs to avoid being totally swamped otherwise no-one will be happy. Perhaps you’re just being cautious. In any case, if you want to encourage adopters, this will need to change.

Also, the pricing seems a little off compared to some other Web 2.0 apps. Joyent starts with 4 users/5Gb space for $15 per month and I’d like to see Fluxiom offering a price/performance ratio closer to that.

The private plan seems to not be massively useful (too little space and no collaboration benefits.) and the Basic plan price point seems a little high. When you’ve already signed up for basecamp, joyent, flickr, strongspace, hosting, etc., for many this could end up being a luxury rather than a necessity.

I’d like to see more storage space (it’s cheap) but with data transfer and user limits to avoid the servers getting swamped. Anyway, just another POV.

Congratulations on the launch – from what I saw of the pre-launch movie (please bring it back) it looks fantastic and beautifully designed. I hope it all goes well for you guys.

by Bart Boudewijns on 20 Apr 15:54

• what about different categories for different users
• I think the functionality ‘Pack up a lot of files in an archive (ZIP file) and upload them all at once. Fluxiom does the rest.’ won’t work…
• labels are a bit to much ‘hidden’…

by Samuel on 20 Apr 16:02

nice work (but for the CC, as said above). A few suggestions : - massive upload ability (as already mentioned) - Tags Discovery : when upping a file, system would scan it, then propose the most relevant tags based on what’s inside - Tags übergrouping : once we’ll have 200 tags or so, might become difficult to read. Ability to regroup tags would proove useful for UI / understanding - Search engine : would allow for tag and file content scanning, results would clearly display which is which.

by Samuel on 20 Apr 16:05

oh. another feature: pls add a blinking cursor when you click on the input field. on FF, doesn’t show up. Weird.

by Justin on 20 Apr 16:25

I’m almost postive that I will signup for an account but I’m NOT going to give my credit card information without demo’ing the product in advance.

I want to try this sooooooooooo bad. Please provide a demo account or even better, what others have mentioned – a 30 day free trial without the credit card requirements.

by steve on 20 Apr 18:20

you arent charged for the 30 day trial….the cc requirement is just to keep the riff raff out…...too bad, you guys dont know what you are missing.

great job on this guys…..only thing i would like to see (maybe already there but cant find it) is the ability to share certain assets with select users…..perhaps folders with user permissions or some variation thereof…..if i have different clients accessing my account…..i dont want them to be able to see everything

by Philipp on 20 Apr 19:28

Finde ich super! Grüße aus dem 22. Bezirk!

by onizuka on 20 Apr 21:45

where is ur login url???

by Mike on 20 Apr 22:31

A pay only service should require a CC up front or you will get thousands of bogus accounts per hour from around the world. But why not offer a Paypal option too?

by Ethan on 20 Apr 23:29

well congrats on this. it seems like a great product but of course I dont know cause I cant use it. You see I dont have a credit card.

if you are scared of getting thousands of bogus accounts each hour from around the world ( which I hope your not, 37signals manages too do it and they started off with one server) Offer like a one hour trial, no user account creation just be able to log in and play around with it. It looks great but does it work great? Good luck.

by Josh on 21 Apr 00:12

Great product!

But yes you are totally limiting I’d say about 80% of your audience right from the getgo.

The front page needs a huge DEMO button, and it needs to be free, within those first few seconds.

Just the way the web works

by Tom on 21 Apr 01:11

Why do people keep insisting that the reason why Fluxiom requires a credit card is to prevent “thousands of people” creating free accounts.

There is an extremely SIMPLE solution. Create 1 DEMO account that all can access.

Just my 2 cents.

by Jack Daniels on 21 Apr 01:36

Too bad that I have no idea how fluxiom works at all and I have no way of knowing if it is better than my current DAM system. I guess I will stick to my current system since I have already paid for it. Sounds like a cool product but without test driving it, it’s a lost cause.

by Anonymous on 21 Apr 16:07

I would argue that the people complaining about having to enter their CC details to demo the service – most likely have no serious intention of subscribing anyway.

If you are supposedly prepared to give your credit card details to Fluxiom in 30 days time then why not now? It is not like they are charging you for these 30 days so why not enter them?

If you argue that it is insecure to enter your CC details then why would it suddently become more secure if you decide to subscribe?

by Mario on 21 Apr 21:54

A random number signature that you have to type in would keep the robots out and you dont need a credit card…. 8P

by Hallvar on 21 Apr 22:12

anonymous: “I would argue that the people complaining about having to enter their CC details to demo the service – most likely have no serious intention of subscribing anyway.”

I can see that. However, I’ll bring this into an analogy in the real world. You enter a department store, some guy in a uniform by the door asks for your credit card. If you don’t give it to him, he asks you to leave. “Why will you not let me in?” you ask him. – “Well what’s the big deal? If you don’t want to buy anything here, then we don’t want you here!”

Doesn’t seem like we get any feedback on these comments, so I’m throwing my towl in.. I admit, I am so freakin’ curious about fluxiom that I’m gonna give up my god damn details and give this thing for a spin!

Maybe I’ll even post my username and password right here ;-) First lemme make sure I can’t get sued or lose money or anything.

by hallvar on 21 Apr 22:20

Looking at 1.3 of the terms of service: They will just remove my account if they beleive unauthorized persons use the account.. sorry guys.

by Jon on 21 Apr 22:43

With regatds to the credit card issue, from a business prospective this is TERRIBLE.

Think about all of the LOST SALES that could be happening.

Let me explain, someone who doesn’t initially plan on paying for the product demo’s it out. After a few minutes of demoing the product, they realize to themself … “how on earth have I been able to live my life without this product, let me purchase an account now”.

From a business prospective, you ALWAYS want to person to “buy” a product then have to “sell” them a product.

Giving people the chance to use the product allows them to learn to love the product and then become “buyers”. By asking for the credit card up front, you are forcing this into a “selling” a product service.

by steve on 21 Apr 22:58

nobody is forcing anybody to do anything…....to those of you without credit cards….why use it if you won’t be able to purchase the service….

You are not being charged for 30 days….what is the big deal?????

by Ethan on 22 Apr 00:08

i have never even heard of this company before this anyways. Just make one demo account and get it over with…I like the department store analogy above.

by derick on 22 Apr 00:55

I can’t even count how many things I buy daily when I am at the mall or especially the grocery store shoping that I didn’t initially intended to buy.

Much like Fluxiom, give us a demo account so that we can “browse” and see if we like it.

by Jonathan on 22 Apr 01:23

I’m encountering a completely different kind of problem due to this credit card restriction.

I work for a small (6 people) design studio. We could potentially benefit from this kind of product. Our company has one (1) corporate credit card and the owner of the company has it.

Whenever we need to use it, we explain why we would like to purchase something, if he agrees he then gives us the card.

Now, I would greatly like to use this product but I certainly don’t want to go to the owner of our design studio to ask him for a credit card to use in a product that I have never even seen before nor let alone even know anyone else who is using it.

It would be MUCH EASIER for me to be able to show him a demo account of the product, or even better – allowed to use the product for 30 days without a credit card, during which time I can import our files into it and then show him how cool this product is and can benefit our company because without this kind of demoing, there is no why our owner will part with the credit card on an unknown product.

Furthermore, a previous commenter mentioned this and I must strongly agree. It’s shocking that no one from Fluxiom has posted even a simple comment to respond to everyone’s concern here. This lack of feedback from the company in my mind is a large red flag waving high.

by Mike on 22 Apr 03:20

I uploaded a zip file but it just stays as a zip file, I thought the system would extract the cotents?

There is a great deal of hype but beyond some nice looking icons, don’t really see what all the buzz is about.

by thofu on 22 Apr 05:37

@mike: You’ve to check the “extract zip archive” checkbox that appears when you select a zip file for uploading.

by Jonathan on 22 Apr 16:02

”@mike: You’ve to check the “extract zip archive” checkbox that appears when you select a zip file for uploading.”

Fluxiom responds finally!!!!!!!

by th0fu on 22 Apr 19:25

@jonathan: For usage and other support questions of any kind there’s the support@fluxiom.com email address. Every fluxiom user that has had questions will assure you that you’ll get swift answers there.

by Thomas Pamminger on 22 Apr 19:25

Because fluxiom has no free plan we ask for all required fields upfront so nothing gets in your way later (with annoying reminders or emails). Anyway: You won’t be billed unless you keep your account open past your 30-day free trial.

We may or may not have a free or a demo account at some point in the future.

We are hard at work and there’s more to come… :)

by Hallvar on 23 Apr 00:09

@thomas pamminger: That is no excuse at all! Especially if your going to pay for something you want to try it first. Same goes for free web software/apps: I’d like to try/demo it before I download and install it myself. If there is no such option, then only if I have heard good words about it, will I download it without trying it first.

Same goes for any other sort of software or hardware, I want screenshots, screencasts, pictures or great reviews. There is ALOT of products out there and most people don’t like to waste their time. You just can’t go around giving out CC details to every guy you meet on the street.

I’ve tried out fluxiom for a short while now. Really great stuff! But as you say there is room for much improvement. And not in any way can I justify the pricepoint you have set, compared to features (some of which don’t seem to work?! – full text search, versioning, ignoring files which fluxiom doesn’t recognise: txt, Open Document, etc), stability (uploading failes numerous times) and client-side speed (FX in firefox in linux on 1.8 GHz, 1GB mem, accelerated ATI drivers, but also IE in windows, and Opera) and server side speed (after collecting customers for 3 days… what about after a month or four?). And some wierd usage of javascript where expert usage of CSS would shine (e.g. position of the bottom menu, and handling of window resize)

Sorry for the messy review ;-) I’m looking forward to seeing you optimize the app and incorporate more vital features. I’ll give it another go in a year or so when you hopefully have up your demo accounts..

Take my critisism as something positive, I really do enjoy what you have created, especially the graphics work.. But obviously I think you people can do much better! And I’m sure you will with time.

It will be interesting what Microsoft and Google comes up with regarding GDrive, etc. Competition is about to get stiff!

by Sylvain Lemire on 24 Apr 23:55

I’ve been waiting for the lunch of Fluxiom since seeing the incredible video teaser. While I have not subscribed for a trial yet, I am taken aback by the pricing structure. It seems to me that 8 gb of storage for 170 pounds a month is way too high. If that were 8gb of new storage space per month, then that would be something else. Just for comparison, I can upload 2gb of images to my 30$/year Flickr account! I know that this is not the same service, but in my business, if we were to migrate all PDF presentation and all data for exchange on a system like Fluxiom, we’re talkin gigs of data per month.

by Greg on 25 Apr 01:20

Maybe Fluxiom should offer lower prices for those of use that want to use our own FTP server

by Mike on 25 Apr 22:27

Change your most expensive plan to around $10/month and you’ll have lots of new subscribers. At this price, I can get a complete dedicated service with 120GB of raid storage for about half of what you charge. Your interface is nice but not worth $200 or so per month!

by jonto on 04 May 02:50

@greg – I totally agree and think that most of the hosted Rails applications which are popping up, Basecamp included, should do the same.

@mike – “At this price, I can get a complete dedicated service with 120GB of raid storage for about half of what you charge”. Where? That sounds good to me!

by mike on 04 May 23:01

Jonto, go to www.godaddy.com – they have dedicated servers start at around $80/month! 120GB of Raid for $100/month vs. 8M for 160 Euros??? A cool interface isn’t worth paying 20X